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DougC
22nd April 2007, 11:54 PM
I thinking of getting a Fox Eyed Exup ('94/'95 model) to keep the Rex out of the rain and I'm looking for advice. The best I can find for me money sit around 27/28k miles should I be worried about this and what should I look out for?

Cheers

Doug

50pence
23rd April 2007, 07:49 AM
Cracking bike, bullet proof engine, the Exup valves can seize, some mid 90's ones are in strange colour combinations, interesting as to how contemporary the '92 FZR1000 looks both in design and colour scheme, (red, white and blue) however the '95 colour scheme which incorporates dark purple (which is great on a ZRX!) looks way out of date now on a sports bike.

I would love a good '92/'93 ish FZR1000 or perhaps a '96/'97 YZF750R or SP.

DougC
23rd April 2007, 11:13 AM
Cheers 50, I was looking at a YZF750R as well but (apart from the guy I spoke to bragging how hard he trashed it :doh: ) feel I would soon be wishing I went the Exup route... extra 20 BHP :) Both bikes I'm looking at have similar miles (27k & 28k) seem to be in good nick, no dodgy rattles and the valves working ok... its just the mileage thats bugging me, should it :hmm:

50pence
23rd April 2007, 01:22 PM
its just the mileage thats bugging me, should it :hmm:

No IMHO, Yamahas are well made, I have heard of a Fazer 600 on over 200,000 miles and still does over 10,000 rpm every day. I also know of an R1 knocking on 60,000.

As with my old 1990 model FZR600 the 1000 did not need the valve clearances to be even checked until 27,000 miles (ZRX 7,500) so might be worth getting that done if no record of it being done before, otherwise no worries.

PALESAINT
23rd April 2007, 03:30 PM
No IMHO, Yamahas are well made, I have heard of a Fazer 600 on over 200,000 miles and still does over 10,000 rpm every day. I also know of an R1 knocking on 60,000.

:agreed: Original fazer 600 - takes legendary abuse as bike most favoured by Brazilian couriers in London, handles far better than earlier 1 ltr yams
pre R1; linear delivery & speed trap @ 140 mph. And now so cheap. Similar comments apply to Fazer thou up to 05. R1 is in fact a taxi in disguise, capable of BIG miles - the R1 lump is what makes the fazer thou so good. :cool:

Whitey
23rd April 2007, 04:40 PM
When I was but a lad, I aspired to owning a FZR1000

Anybody remember this paintjob?

http://img142.imagevenue.com/loc502/th_42636_ym50_doc_24FZR1000vs2_122_502lo.jpg (http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=42636_ym50_doc_24FZR1000vs2_122_502l o.jpg)


Heres a pic of one of my RD's I just dug out:

http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc717/th_42640_Powervalve2_122_717lo.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=42640_Powervalve2_122_717lo.jpg)

I miss that bike. <sniff>

DougC
23rd April 2007, 07:13 PM
Heres a pic of one of my RD's I just dug out:

http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc717/th_42640_Powervalve2_122_717lo.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=42640_Powervalve2_122_717lo.jpg)

I miss that bike. <sniff>

Same as my first one :) I know what you mean about missing them. Cheers for the advice, from what you're saying don't worry about the miles but get the valves done if they haven't been already? Spoke with the guy today and it sounds good new tyres, rear caliper, pads and disc. he'll put new pads on the front, also just been serviced. The body has a few stone chips and a small hairline crack by one indicator other wise its in good nick and should tidy up nicely.... someone want to outbid me on this beast (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140108291778&rd=1&rd=1).... mind you I don't think I would worry to much if I win it. Still fancy the Exup over it though :)

Whitey
23rd April 2007, 07:33 PM
Do you mean you had an F2 or a YPVS painted in FZR colours?

bikesnoopy
23rd April 2007, 09:07 PM
I thinking of getting a Fox Eyed Exup ('94/'95 model) to keep the Rex out of the rain and I'm looking for advice. The best I can find for me money sit around 27/28k miles should I be worried about this and what should I look out for?

Cheers

Doug


Ive had 3 EXUP's & a Thunderace. I sold my last 3LG model(95 foxeye)just before Christmas.

When buying,look out for...
Warped discs. They warp so easily if you dont use OE pads.
Fork seals on USD forks.GSXR1100 ones fit and last longer.
EXUP valves wired open.You lose all your midrange.
Shagged rear shock & worn bushes.
If oil light comes on,dont worry unduly.Its only a level indicator,not a pressure warning.Just check the oil level.
Clutches are marginal & always slip when cold.
Make sure the shims were checked at 28000 mile intervals as they close up & cause valves to burn out.
NEVER use fully synthetic oil.
Front mudguards always crack.
The headlight on the RU model is crap(91-93)
A 180 tyre on the rear is recommended by the tyre manufacturers,so dont worry if theres not a 170 on there.
The brakes seize for a pastime in the winter.The 4 pot ones on the first generation(89-91)& the RU models(91-93)are the worst.The 6 potters on the Foxeye 3LG models(94-96)are the best.
R1 calipers bolt straight on.
An end can has no effect on performance,because of the EXUP valve.A stock motor runs nicer on the standard can.
Check to see if its restricted to 125bhp.Theres little rubber "webs" accross the inlet rubbers that restrict airflow.Cut these out with a stanley knife & hey presto,15 free bhp.No jetting mods required if you do this.
Bridgestone BT010 tyres work well on EXUP's.
If the EXUP valve isnt working,its probably a bad connection to the exup motor under the seat.When you switch on it should open then close.Youll hear it whirring.
Full aftermarket systems do away with the EXUP valve(which is a shame).
The motors are strong & reliable & are a powerhouse of grunt.
Change the oil every 3000 miles.

A much underated bike.Fast as f**k & not bettered by the 'Ace which replaced it. The YZF750R is another stonking bike from the same era.
Hope this helps.:)

DougC
23rd April 2007, 09:08 PM
Erm, not sure the model #, but it was a 1000 exup, '89 model I think. One :cool: bike... a new one would make a good bitch for the Rex :)

Have to admit Whitey, I didn't know they painted the RD in Exup colours... I live and learn :thumb:

bikesnoopy
23rd April 2007, 09:14 PM
BTW Doug...if you DO buy one with 27-28000 miles on the clock,MAKE SURE the shim check/shimming has been done. Remember,theres 20 valves to do every 28000 miles & if it hasnt already been done,its very expensive. If it hasnt been done,budget for this in your offer.

DougC
23rd April 2007, 09:59 PM
Cheers Snoops!!

Whitey
23rd April 2007, 10:03 PM
Have to admit Whitey, I didn't know they painted the RD in Exup colours... I live and learn :thumb:

They didn't.

Dream Machine did.

DougC
23rd April 2007, 11:22 PM
As only Dream Machine can :thumb: One last question guys do the valves need doing on a YZF750 wth the same miles and is it usual to get a rattle from the clutch on these yammies?

DougC
23rd April 2007, 11:44 PM
Cheers again Snoopy we were posting around the same time and I didn't read your post until just now. The 750 is also 900 brick cheaper... which would leave some cash to mod the Rex a bit more :)

bikesnoopy
24th April 2007, 06:09 PM
As only Dream Machine can :thumb: One last question guys do the valves need doing on a YZF750 wth the same miles and is it usual to get a rattle from the clutch on these yammies?


Yes and yes. Fortunatly,when Yamaha decided to cram 5 valves in every combustion chamber,they made it so the valve checks were only every 28000. I suppose,as the valves are smaller & lighter,they dont hammer the seats so hard & so stay in tolerance for longer.The clutch rattle will disappear when you pull the lever in...:)

DougC
24th April 2007, 10:24 PM
Thanks again... bloody hell, buying the Rex was easy compared to this. I'm looking again at the YZF and have told the guy I'll be down to see it on Sunday... fingers crossed :)

bikesnoopy
25th April 2007, 07:21 AM
The YZF,like the EXUP,is a stonking bike. They won 3 BSB championships back to back,even after they had gone out of production.The Ducatis,ZX7RR's,RC45's & GSXR750's STILL couldnt beat them! Later models had the same front end as the exup,including the 6 pot brakes & they also had a GENUINE Ohlins rear shock as standard.
Theyre not THAT difficult to buy. Just look for all the usual things you would look for when buying a motorbike...just dont pay TOO much. Prices are still cheap on both bikes. Theyre really very reliable...just the finish can be a bit crappy if neglected...:D:

50pence
25th April 2007, 12:48 PM
The only problem with YZF750s and to a lesser extent EXUPs is the cooling is marginal in town in stop/start traffic in hot weather.

bikesnoopy
25th April 2007, 07:06 PM
Never found any cooling issues on any of mine,or any others in particular...maybe you just had a bad one...?:dunno:

RHM
26th April 2007, 04:08 PM
My '87 Genesis would run the fan very easily in town. I believe the French in particular had a nickname for them "le percolateur" or somesuch. Never actually a problem though.

DougC
26th April 2007, 09:53 PM
Cheers Guys, I think I'm gonna settle on the YZF, I can get a 94 for around a grand with fox eyes and Ohlins etc. and I've a bit left over for some more Rexing Mods:) Thanks for the advice dudes, I'll post the Rex's new bitch once I get a hold of a decent one, if I can't, then I'll go for the Exup as a 2nd choice:)

bikesnoopy
27th April 2007, 06:03 PM
My '87 Genesis would run the fan very easily in town. I believe the French in particular had a nickname for them "le percolateur" or somesuch. Never actually a problem though.


Yes,the Genesis did run hotter...but that had a different engine to the exup. The exup had a few more cc's & a lot of internal differences & a bigger radiator,so i guess Yam addressed the cooling issues...:)